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holix · Dec 20, 2007, 06:16 PM // 18:16

damn im at 987 points done all vanq all missions in nm hm all dungeons in NM and 16dungeons out of 18 in HM VLOXEN and RRAGAR'S. What's your tactic to do 1 of them..? Tried vloxen 5times

Proff · Dec 20, 2007, 07:57 PM // 19:57

or you could map 13% of eotn and get the title....

T. Drake · Dec 20, 2007, 08:29 PM // 20:29

Rragar's Menagerie is the dungeon I won't play in HM ever again if I can avoid it.

Vloxen was a pain too, but due to the amount of failed runs in Rragar's Dungeon my vote goes to this one.

tekDragon · Dec 20, 2007, 09:20 PM // 21:20

Well Rrargar's and Vloxen are the ones that people seem o have the most problems with... at least in this thread.

I managed to hench both with the 3 necro team and full sets of consumables. I guess it's a fail and a hit on my pride in some way but at least now they're done. I guess between both dungeons I used 5 armors, grails and, and essences... and maybe 2 powerstones. Bleh.... made me feel dirty but at least I now have a completed HM Dungeon book.

I'd have to say, even with candies, level 2 of volxen was still the hardest. The fight with the MM boss and the group right before were great long drawn out stalemates... Long and difficult, but doable. The undead areas after were a joke and so was the undead boss.

yishin · Dec 21, 2007, 12:23 AM // 00:23

I am also planning to skip one dungeon. With still 3 dungeons left (Rragars, Shards of Orr and Duncan), I was planning to skip Shards of Orr since I found that the most difficult (it took some time to kill the boss) the first time I did it in normal mode, it seems ages ago.
The other 15 dungeons I h/h and used lots of mainly candycanes, but I can't remember Vloxxen to be that difficult. There were some tips in wiki that helped me out.
When h/h I always bring enough consumables and candycanes. I remember using like 50-80 honeycombs on a couple of dungeons (like frostmaw), I was using them freely because my character is also going for the sweet tooth title.
But looking at your list and reading other peoples experiences if I were you I'd choose to skip between Frostmaw and Vloxxen. I'd already wrote I couldn't remember Vloxxen to be that difficult but others did. Frostmaw dungeon just took a long time and lots of "honeycombs" (there was a level were he spawns quite a few times (probably an update)).
Goodluck

Mr None · Dec 21, 2007, 06:25 AM // 06:25

I have Legendary Vanguisher and Guardian, finished every elite mission in game with hero+henchmen or with friend + heroes, but i must say that Citadel is by far the hardest area in game. This is the only place me and my friend couldn't do with heros normally and decided to go Ursans (stupidly overpowered skill)

puffzilla · Dec 24, 2007, 12:43 PM // 12:43

Well filled my dungeon HM book yesterday.

Found Vloxen Excavations easy enough but I had a friend helping. W with sabs 3 N build. He was an SF ele + sf hero and 2 monks. Actually a really fun dungeon. That one group on the second level hurt but that's about it.

Raven's point was annoying. Ok had done a few already yesterday before doing it but found there was way too man Vaettir. You may want to modify your build to take them out easy.

So my trip to Rragar's Menagerie was the worst by far. Having to do it over I would have gotten help with this one for sure. Not sure I'd have taken frozen soil but that rez'mer was a pain. The sabs build was nice but needed a bit more help at taking the monk down quicker.

bifter · Dec 24, 2007, 01:01 PM // 13:01

Grats! I just did Frostmaw - it was fairly fine, so still have Vloxen, Rragar's and Slavers' to go.

You can dodge many of the vaettir in Raven's Point btw, but I agree that they are slightly annoying.

Any tips for henching Rragar's?

OS T · Dec 24, 2007, 01:52 PM // 13:52

none dungeons actually,they give players a challenge,atlest some dungeons,ive done like 6of em as UB and the rest with a balanced team...

Jaceb · Dec 25, 2007, 10:49 PM // 22:49

Well, i removed some of my earlier junk that i had written because it was stupid. Darkrime is actually very simple with enough hex removal - so dont skip it even if you dont like Jotuns but do yourself a favor and rezone to get an easier spawn, it's pointless to fight against 6 Bloodcurdlers. Vloxen & Rragars and some sections of Slavers Exile you might want to skip though and perhaps Destructions Depths too.

Edit1: Since i just beat Ooze Pit (HM) with around -50% dp (+10% morale before bosses) i can safely say that that place rocked my pants. Infact i fougth without pants for more HP against the last one. That absorption skill is totally nuts - it almost feels like it's always on. Having rangers with pets is the way to go - for some reason the bosses want to bash them instead. With a little luck you can skip some fights if they're far enough for you to sneak past. If you or anyone else starts to build up DP - the oozes will try to gank that player all the time.

Edit2: FrostMaw's Burrow (HM): If you want to do it, you have to be extremely carefull where you step on - i cant stress that enough. There's many very nasty chokepoints with Frostmaw Spawns + 4-5 Frost Wurms + 6-8 Stormcloud Incubus . Yep it's indeed possible to have all those on your party. Believe me, thats probably the most painfull wipe ever. Nothing is what it seems in there, an empty room can be your doom. DP is punished severly in here.

Thought Edit: I was just thinking, how on earth can you beat Fendi Nin on HM without getting to 60% DP and thrown back to outpost? - i mean normally without being buffed to the max. Sure seems very difficult.

Graphik Desine · Dec 26, 2007, 01:55 AM // 01:55

ooze pit and rragars definitely. 2 or more lvl 30+ bosses standing next to each other causing over and over aoe party wipes. good thing for consumables and/or daze/interrupt rangers ._. if these types of groups don't bother you, then the combo below would be good:

runners up were vloxen and shards, but shards seemed to be the same as nm (only with candy canes included) and vloxen just took sooo long because of dp on the heroes (lack of powerstones) and all the minion masters...and that 1 narrow spawn point by the necro boss that could possibly trap you in due to mob size and minions...such a nice surprise...:P

but i wanted them all so i put myself thru a lotta hell finishing it

but it was worth it reward wise--money and rep points--sure way to cut corners instead of grinding on monsters

Randvek · Dec 26, 2007, 03:30 AM // 03:30

Vloxen is definitely the toughest hard mode dungeon. If you do tackle it, here's the best tip anyone can give you: [card]Frozen Soil[/card]. I honestly don't know how you could beat that dungeon in hardmode without it.